vi% for governor romney. if you look at the real clear politics average of polls, this is roughly about that from september 25 to octobe october 2. if you go to the "wall street journal" poll about the economy, approval, how is president obama doing handling the economy? vi% approve. 51% disapprove. brit, while right track/wrong track is narrowing there is still real negative numbers in the polls for president obama. >> well, for romney to have a chance, there better be. because that is the issue that is central. he had been gaining ground on the issue in a way a lot of people thought wasn't possible. if he has begun to retreat, romney needs that to happen. he needs to emerge from the whole campaign, the debates part of them as the person with the ability and the stronger plan for the economy. because this is not an economy that people find to their liking. not agreeable to people. that is where romney needs to be strong. >> bret: chuck, their target audience tonight? >> maybe state of ohio. i really mean tha